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		<title>By: AAAA</title>
		<link>http://thesmarterwallet.com/2009/upside-down-mortgage-foreclose-walk-away-from-mortgage-foreclosure/comment-page-1/#comment-15428</link>
		<dc:creator>AAAA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally speaking, you can&#039;t walk away from an upside down mortgage in Florida without some type of aftermath such as a deficiency judgment. If you walk, you should expect either the bank&#039;s attorneys or a third-party debt collector to harass you, and/or sue you for the difference. If you walk in other states, it may not be so bad. But I&#039;m sure that if you walk from your home in the state of Florida, you will be in a lot of trouble unless you declare bankruptcy because they will try to sue you for the difference. If you have no money and your the head of the house, they can&#039;t garnish your wages, but why bother living with a judgment for the next 20 years of your life. Sit down with a good real-estate attorney before you decide to walk cause you have to protect your assets or whatever little you have left. Just Google &quot;deficiency judgment in Florida&quot; and see of the mess many have had to deal with after they walked from a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally speaking, you can&#8217;t walk away from an upside down mortgage in Florida without some type of aftermath such as a deficiency judgment. If you walk, you should expect either the bank&#8217;s attorneys or a third-party debt collector to harass you, and/or sue you for the difference. If you walk in other states, it may not be so bad. But I&#8217;m sure that if you walk from your home in the state of Florida, you will be in a lot of trouble unless you declare bankruptcy because they will try to sue you for the difference. If you have no money and your the head of the house, they can&#8217;t garnish your wages, but why bother living with a judgment for the next 20 years of your life. Sit down with a good real-estate attorney before you decide to walk cause you have to protect your assets or whatever little you have left. Just Google &#8220;deficiency judgment in Florida&#8221; and see of the mess many have had to deal with after they walked from a home.</p>
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		<title>By: HAlexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>HAlexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am seeking some insight but certainly will not rely on the answers but it will give me some thought. I purchased my townhome in 2006 at the height of the Atlanta real estate market, on a property that was talked &quot;down&quot; to $320,000. My mortgage is $285,000 and the appraisal for a refinance came in at $140,000!! Incredibly unbelievable if it wasn&#039;t true. 

This being said, my worry is a mortgage of over $2,000 a month and property taxes that continue to rise. Even if the market rebounds, albeit slowly, my property will not be increasing over 100% for sure. If I do walk away, are there ramifications other than credit and steps the bank would take such as wage garnishment to get the money back? That is my biggest concern.

Any insight would be great. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am seeking some insight but certainly will not rely on the answers but it will give me some thought. I purchased my townhome in 2006 at the height of the Atlanta real estate market, on a property that was talked &#8220;down&#8221; to $320,000. My mortgage is $285,000 and the appraisal for a refinance came in at $140,000!! Incredibly unbelievable if it wasn&#8217;t true. </p>
<p>This being said, my worry is a mortgage of over $2,000 a month and property taxes that continue to rise. Even if the market rebounds, albeit slowly, my property will not be increasing over 100% for sure. If I do walk away, are there ramifications other than credit and steps the bank would take such as wage garnishment to get the money back? That is my biggest concern.</p>
<p>Any insight would be great. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: The Smarter Wallet</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Smarter Wallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all those reading the information you see on this page: I just want to remind everyone to do your due diligence when following up with resources and info that you see submitted here.  If you have any specific interests in any group or organization that presents themselves here -- please do your own research.  This is just a reminder that I only provide a forum for discussions here but I do not regulate nor necessarily endorse the opinions and offers that others put forth through this channel.

I only hope that as you check our pages, you&#039;ll find something helpful and useful from our site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all those reading the information you see on this page: I just want to remind everyone to do your due diligence when following up with resources and info that you see submitted here.  If you have any specific interests in any group or organization that presents themselves here &#8212; please do your own research.  This is just a reminder that I only provide a forum for discussions here but I do not regulate nor necessarily endorse the opinions and offers that others put forth through this channel.</p>
<p>I only hope that as you check our pages, you&#8217;ll find something helpful and useful from our site.</p>
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		<title>By: United Homeowners of America</title>
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		<dc:creator>United Homeowners of America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to present an effort of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mbscollateral.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;United Homeowners of America&lt;/a&gt;.  In essence, our main objective is the same as that of a labor union - to build a sufficient membership to influence the decisions.  In case of a labor union those are the decisions of an employer, in our case those are the decisions of the financial institutions.

The parallels of this effort and the labor union are staggering... a single bricklayer on a construction of the Empire State Building does not have a &quot;say&quot;, however, a significant group of bricklayers organized together can slow down or even halt the construction project.  In our case, a single mortgage payer is irrelevant to the financial institutions, however, if a group representing even a 10% of a bank&#039;s portfolio approaches in unison with joint demands... it will be a different story.  Their statistical models can predict individual consumer behavior, but the same statistical models &quot;go out of the window&quot; if we are talking about a joint effort.  And it is for this exact purpose that the banks organize their mortgage portfolios to include people of different races, interests, social groups, separated geographically, and wrapped with anonymity... all of that to SPECIFICALLY MAKE IT AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE TO ORGANIZE (in the financial terms this is called &quot;diversification&quot;).  What makes things even more complex is that banks are intermediaries and do not own or control your mortgages - the mortgages are spread across tens of thousands of Mortgage Backed Securities (Trusts) each of which with its own set of &quot;owners&quot; (investors).  [These are the investors that your bank would refer to when saying &quot;sorry... we cannot do anything for you... those are the investors that are bad guys that refuse to modify your mortgage&quot;]

Where does the United Homeowners of America fit in?  We are identifying the Trusts, people/entities that run those Trusts and the investors in those Trusts.  Then, when homeowners register, we will be matching them with the Trust that holds their mortgages, with the investors that own the Trust... and when we see that we have a substantial identifiable group of homeowners that can bond together and &quot;arm twist&quot;... we&#039;ll do exactly that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to present an effort of the <a href="http://www.mbscollateral.com" rel="nofollow">United Homeowners of America</a>.  In essence, our main objective is the same as that of a labor union &#8211; to build a sufficient membership to influence the decisions.  In case of a labor union those are the decisions of an employer, in our case those are the decisions of the financial institutions.</p>
<p>The parallels of this effort and the labor union are staggering&#8230; a single bricklayer on a construction of the Empire State Building does not have a &#8220;say&#8221;, however, a significant group of bricklayers organized together can slow down or even halt the construction project.  In our case, a single mortgage payer is irrelevant to the financial institutions, however, if a group representing even a 10% of a bank&#8217;s portfolio approaches in unison with joint demands&#8230; it will be a different story.  Their statistical models can predict individual consumer behavior, but the same statistical models &#8220;go out of the window&#8221; if we are talking about a joint effort.  And it is for this exact purpose that the banks organize their mortgage portfolios to include people of different races, interests, social groups, separated geographically, and wrapped with anonymity&#8230; all of that to SPECIFICALLY MAKE IT AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE TO ORGANIZE (in the financial terms this is called &#8220;diversification&#8221;).  What makes things even more complex is that banks are intermediaries and do not own or control your mortgages &#8211; the mortgages are spread across tens of thousands of Mortgage Backed Securities (Trusts) each of which with its own set of &#8220;owners&#8221; (investors).  [These are the investors that your bank would refer to when saying "sorry... we cannot do anything for you... those are the investors that are bad guys that refuse to modify your mortgage"]</p>
<p>Where does the United Homeowners of America fit in?  We are identifying the Trusts, people/entities that run those Trusts and the investors in those Trusts.  Then, when homeowners register, we will be matching them with the Trust that holds their mortgages, with the investors that own the Trust&#8230; and when we see that we have a substantial identifiable group of homeowners that can bond together and &#8220;arm twist&#8221;&#8230; we&#8217;ll do exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow ,We put $100,000 down appraised at 265,000, now at 86,000.  Crap we did buy with our hearts and not our heads, and a condo on the water, anyway we&#039;re doing the math and at 52yrs old i believe we are going to walk. In less than 3 yrs still will be able to put down a good chunk money on a home. When u do the math at times it does make good business sense to walk, Why do u think the banks are calling it toxic assets, well tide has turned and stay in your toxic asset till u have to go. 

Save enough cash to make the next move. They will not help out so do the math people and do the right business decision. The banks and lenders, and appraisers created this train wreck why should we suffer upside down?  There are know breaks for folks upside down, and do u really think there going to black list everyone who foreclosed?

Regards,
Jess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow ,We put $100,000 down appraised at 265,000, now at 86,000.  Crap we did buy with our hearts and not our heads, and a condo on the water, anyway we&#8217;re doing the math and at 52yrs old i believe we are going to walk. In less than 3 yrs still will be able to put down a good chunk money on a home. When u do the math at times it does make good business sense to walk, Why do u think the banks are calling it toxic assets, well tide has turned and stay in your toxic asset till u have to go. </p>
<p>Save enough cash to make the next move. They will not help out so do the math people and do the right business decision. The banks and lenders, and appraisers created this train wreck why should we suffer upside down?  There are know breaks for folks upside down, and do u really think there going to black list everyone who foreclosed?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jess</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am walking,  but not till I milk the bank for free rent..till they kick me out.
After all it&#039;s just stuff...i will find another home to live in..like I always have.

The banks screwed us, and the government is screwing us for more taxes and stealth taxes (fees for just about everything u need just to live). It&#039;s my way of sticking it to the white man. If we all can do this in one move....we will lose to big government and the Mafia banks of the world...then we can start all over again without a corrupted controlled monetary system. Money concentrates power...and that is were we are at under the gun by big bankers and bought politicians. Change is good when the people and their children’s children will be finally free from their enslavements.

Wake up.... sheep are only good for fleecing, and once we catch on to their games, then they can’t fleece us anymore…then we&#039;re only good to them dead. Do not wait till that happens and you are not ready for what is coming…lock and load, that day will be here…change is coming but not without some pain...stick it to the man while you still can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am walking,  but not till I milk the bank for free rent..till they kick me out.<br />
After all it&#8217;s just stuff&#8230;i will find another home to live in..like I always have.</p>
<p>The banks screwed us, and the government is screwing us for more taxes and stealth taxes (fees for just about everything u need just to live). It&#8217;s my way of sticking it to the white man. If we all can do this in one move&#8230;.we will lose to big government and the Mafia banks of the world&#8230;then we can start all over again without a corrupted controlled monetary system. Money concentrates power&#8230;and that is were we are at under the gun by big bankers and bought politicians. Change is good when the people and their children’s children will be finally free from their enslavements.</p>
<p>Wake up&#8230;. sheep are only good for fleecing, and once we catch on to their games, then they can’t fleece us anymore…then we&#8217;re only good to them dead. Do not wait till that happens and you are not ready for what is coming…lock and load, that day will be here…change is coming but not without some pain&#8230;stick it to the man while you still can.</p>
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		<title>By: RICE</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELLO.  WHAT ABOUT NOT PAYING THE MORTAGE TIL FORECLOSURE REALLY HAPPENS AND THEN AT THAT TIME DECIDE IF  ITS WORTH KEEPING OR NOT.   MEAN WHILE  SAVE THE MONEY.  WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLO.  WHAT ABOUT NOT PAYING THE MORTAGE TIL FORECLOSURE REALLY HAPPENS AND THEN AT THAT TIME DECIDE IF  ITS WORTH KEEPING OR NOT.   MEAN WHILE  SAVE THE MONEY.  WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a 60 year old woman who raised 4 kids by myself.  I have always paid my mortgage on time every month.  Over the years I used the equity in my house to put all my children through college but made sure I did not max out the equity availability.  My last refinance was for an adjustable mortgage.  The bank that held my mortgage went bankrupt and sold the mortgage to Chase.  Chase contacted me with the good news about changing my mortgage into a fixed rate loan and decreasing my rate by up to 3%.  However, when they appraised my home it turned out to be an upside down loan at $100,000 below the selling rate from 2008.  

I&#039;m trying to find out all the consequences of just walking away.  The more I look and read the closer I&#039;m getting to leaving the keys on the counter and moving on.  Most likely I will move into an apartment and never buy a home again at this age.  By walking away I will be able to get all my other &quot;credit items&quot; ie. car and credit card payments totally paid off in less than 2 years.  I just cannot continue living pay check to paycheck to pay a mortgage ($2600 a month) just to have a roof over my head.  I need to start putting money into my retirement funds since I&#039;ve lost 75% of that as well.

The banks made this...we did not get here alone.  It will take at least 10 years to get the value of the homes back on track, if by then.   Talk about quality of life...there is none when every month it is a struggle to pay the bills and have food on the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a 60 year old woman who raised 4 kids by myself.  I have always paid my mortgage on time every month.  Over the years I used the equity in my house to put all my children through college but made sure I did not max out the equity availability.  My last refinance was for an adjustable mortgage.  The bank that held my mortgage went bankrupt and sold the mortgage to Chase.  Chase contacted me with the good news about changing my mortgage into a fixed rate loan and decreasing my rate by up to 3%.  However, when they appraised my home it turned out to be an upside down loan at $100,000 below the selling rate from 2008.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to find out all the consequences of just walking away.  The more I look and read the closer I&#8217;m getting to leaving the keys on the counter and moving on.  Most likely I will move into an apartment and never buy a home again at this age.  By walking away I will be able to get all my other &#8220;credit items&#8221; ie. car and credit card payments totally paid off in less than 2 years.  I just cannot continue living pay check to paycheck to pay a mortgage ($2600 a month) just to have a roof over my head.  I need to start putting money into my retirement funds since I&#8217;ve lost 75% of that as well.</p>
<p>The banks made this&#8230;we did not get here alone.  It will take at least 10 years to get the value of the homes back on track, if by then.   Talk about quality of life&#8230;there is none when every month it is a struggle to pay the bills and have food on the table.</p>
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		<title>By: EP</title>
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		<dc:creator>EP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no sense of obligation to BofA anymore.   Yes, I bought a home that was more than I could afford.  Yes, I screwed up and got an interest only loan when I shouldn&#039;t have.  BUT, these frickin banks were screwing thousands of people over by even making this horrible loans available.  Where was the due diligence and the common sense on their part. Yes, I made a bad decision, but so did they.  We both should pay for it... me by taking a terrible hit on my future credit report and them by keeping this fricking overpriced home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no sense of obligation to BofA anymore.   Yes, I bought a home that was more than I could afford.  Yes, I screwed up and got an interest only loan when I shouldn&#8217;t have.  BUT, these frickin banks were screwing thousands of people over by even making this horrible loans available.  Where was the due diligence and the common sense on their part. Yes, I made a bad decision, but so did they.  We both should pay for it&#8230; me by taking a terrible hit on my future credit report and them by keeping this fricking overpriced home.</p>
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		<title>By: California</title>
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		<dc:creator>California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We bought a house 4 years ago in a relatively nice, quite neighborhood with great neighbors. Before the bubble burst many homeowners sold or rented out their homes and now we not only have to deal with the fact that our home is worth 50% of what we paid for it, but we recently had gang members and ex-convicts move in and are living around us. Heck, a shooting just took place at the elementary school a few blocks away from us this morning. We have great credit and have always paid our bills on-time but this is getting ridiculous...not to mention dangerous! We have always been responsible and didn&#039;t &quot;cash out&quot; on home equity and buy all &quot;the toys&quot; everyone else was buying so I have no problem getting rid of a worthless mortgage in a gang-infested city!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We bought a house 4 years ago in a relatively nice, quite neighborhood with great neighbors. Before the bubble burst many homeowners sold or rented out their homes and now we not only have to deal with the fact that our home is worth 50% of what we paid for it, but we recently had gang members and ex-convicts move in and are living around us. Heck, a shooting just took place at the elementary school a few blocks away from us this morning. We have great credit and have always paid our bills on-time but this is getting ridiculous&#8230;not to mention dangerous! We have always been responsible and didn&#8217;t &#8220;cash out&#8221; on home equity and buy all &#8220;the toys&#8221; everyone else was buying so I have no problem getting rid of a worthless mortgage in a gang-infested city!</p>
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